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betty hill

07/08/2011 7:44 PM  

I heavily relied on for several years to analyze the risks and returns of individual holdings in my portfolio, as well as the overall risk and return on my portfolio as a whole and in relation to various indices.  I would like to think that it has "saved" me from making mistakes in my portfolio.  I know that I sleep better after using it.  That's the good news.

Now, for the bad.  When I attempted to use it today, I found that it is no longer available (discontinued after 6/30/11 although I used it earlier this week).  A message on the homepage directs financial institutions to contact MSCI for available commercial products and services. 

I am in shock.

Does anyone know the background on the termination?  Better yet, what suggestions do you have for me to analyze the risks and returns of my holdings and portfolio as I did in the past?

Betty Hill




Doug Gerlach
StockCentral Founder

07/20/2011 1:18 PM  
I don't know of any alternatives, but you might consider looking at the beta of your holdings. Beta measures the volatility of the price of a security compared to a benchmark (for stocks, it compares the security to the S&P 500, typically). I've been mulling over whether or not it would be useful to incorporate beta into some of our tools here on StockCentral, in fact.


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Danny Matthews

07/20/2011 1:39 PM  

I wouldn't. Then you are relying on investor sentiment to make decisions. A very short term view.

Danny Matthews
Tuscola IL

Larry Wiener

07/23/2011 9:29 AM  

 Isn't the P/E ratio a measure of investor sentiment?

Lawrence Mueller

07/23/2011 1:58 PM  

 Beta is a reflection of how the company performs with respect to changes to the market in general, and is probably more a measure of inherent risk in a stock or a particular industry then a measure of investor sentiment. I guess in some ways it might be considered a measure of earnings leverage off a overall economic performance.

How to incorporate that into a SSG is tough but somehow or other I think you could expect to see high beta stock to have high PE variations over time as opposed to low beta stocks. But quantifying that would be difficult. I think it is useful information however.

Anthony Ricciardi

07/28/2011 3:54 PM  

Some options for replacing Riskgrade may be the following:

It is web-based, but limits how many securities can be in a portfolio.


This site run by Geoff Considine offers an Excel file that can be used on a trial basis.  It also limits the size of portfolios.




Doug Rand

08/02/2011 11:59 AM  

The AAII also used Risk Grades to help drive a model portfolio service they provide.  You might consider contacting them to see if they have an alternative



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