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IRA SMILOVITZ
Leonia, NJ


06/26/2008 10:34 PM  
Rich,
 
I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on tv. I view my role as one of raising issues which I know have affected others (though not with the same specifics as your situation) and leaving it to you to do your own due diligence to assure yourself and your fellow investors that you aren't violating some rule.
 
I wish you the best in your endeavors.
 
Ira Smilovitz
 
Join me at Invest Ed 2008
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(TM)
Charlotte, North Carolina
August 8 - 10, 2008
http://www.investor-education2008.org/
 
In a message dated 06/26/2008 10:23:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clubhouse@stockcentral.com writes:
From the The Clubhouse forum at StockCentral.com, tucanred writes:

Hi Ira:

 

Thx for the link.  I’ll read it through.  Yes, these laws you cited are correct. 

 

I will write up a paper based on my research and legal analysis given the particular model I’m looking at and get back to you for perhaps your input.  I would be sincerely indebted to you.

 

I see a correlative relationship with FX and equities markets… my technical analysis works for either/in concert with fundamentals – e.g. economic reports.

The interesting index chart is to take the Baltic Dry Index; DOW; and S&P – at 3years… and you’ll see a clear picture of what is driving the global economy.

 

I got some good feedback raising these concerns and the fact that some people are honestly trying to wrap there mind around the concept.

 

For one thing, I don’t work for a brokerage, and I’m not soliciting for business. I’m an independently contracted account manager/trader for the Forex Spot market.   My contracts are specific about this and there is no conflict of interest under these provisions.  If I were “the” FXManager in a Stock Club to solicit monies for a specific brokerage, then that could raise concerns of conflict of interest.  But, for example the Stock Club was an LLC or Corporation, then it can be the decision of the that entity to decide on the FXManager they wanted to use.  But if by profession I am a FXManager, but join a Stock Club, that would not be a conflict of interest or in violation of SEC laws and/or CFTC et al; as it’s a personal choice and I am not enducing the members of the Stock Club to exclusively participate with any FX brokerage that I am contracted with.  It’s a gray area… so it’s a matter of clarifying the boundaries of the relationship in the LCC or Corporation bylaws.  At least that’s my sidewalk discussion on the matter… but I’ll dig into this and find out. 

 

You raised the right caveats.  Thx. 

 

I greatly appreciate this, and I’ll get back to you on my own interpretation/determination in consideration of the legal jurisdictions.

 

Tough market today.  It’s not over.  ABX surged +258 gain.  My own equity portfolio took a +208 gain today.  DUK was the only negative… ACH is next to fall… such an odd thing today… YEN took the lion share of market sentiment with CHF following… but Nikkei is on the skids now… these correlations are interesting…

 

Good luck.  I like your website and what you offer.

 

Best,

Rich Kambak

Elk Grove, California

 


From: clubhouse@stockcentral.com [mailto:clubhouse@stockcentral.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:33 PM
To: tucanred@surewest.net
Subject: [The Clubhouse]: Re: [The Clubhouse]: Re: [The Clubhouse]: Forex/Equities Invesment Club ... (17299e32-4da9-4490-890d-6f0373ebde0f)

 

Sure. Start here: http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/invclub.htm (Investment Clubs and the SEC). What you're looking for are how the following three laws may affect you: Securities Act of 1933, Investment Company Act of 1940, and the Investment Advisers Act of 1940.

 

Ira Smilovitz

 

Join me at Invest Ed 2008
Investor Education at Its Best
(TM)
Charlotte, North Carolina
August 8 - 10, 2008
http://www.investor-education2008.org/

 

In a message dated 06/26/2008 2:16:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clubhouse@stockcentral.com writes:

From the The Clubhouse forum at StockCentral.com, tucanred writes:

Do you have SEC citations?  Thx.  Rich

 


From: clubhouse@stockcentral.com [mailto:clubhouse@stockcentral.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:30 PM
To: tucanred@surewest.net
Subject: [The Clubhouse]: Re: [The Clubhouse]: Forex/Equities Invesment Club (5dd0b530-9b37-4efd-... (bd7fb8d8-0caf-443a-9b87-38dacdb30074)

 

I see several major problems with what you propose. First, forex trades are not really suitable for an investment club environment because you can't get the decision-making input from your members quickly enough to take advantage of market movements. The second, and probably more significant, problem is that the compliance rules of your broker/dealer may prohibit your membership in a club or impose strict rules on what you can and cannot invest in and when you can buy and sell. Finally, if your intention is to "manage" the club's investment portfolio, then you may have additional SEC/FINRA requirements.

 

Ira Smilovitz

Join me at
Invest Ed 2008
Investor Education at Its Best
(TM)
Charlotte, North Carolina
August 8 - 10, 2008
http://www.investor-education2008.org/

 

In a message dated 06/26/2008 11:12:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clubhouse@stockcentral.com writes:

From the The Clubhouse forum at StockCentral.com, Richard Kambak writes:

Hi...

I am considering starting a Forex/Equities Investment Club.  I am a FX account manager and see that there needs to be new paradigm of combining FX/Equities because cross border markets are being driven by foreign currency/commodities more and more.

Any thoughts?  Insights? 

Appreciated your feedback  - if constructive. 

Sincerely,

Rich Kambak





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