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Subject: FactSet Research (FDS) Update
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armin fields


01/18/2008 1:25 PM  

 - Value Line updated its report on December 7 and warned that FDS's performance may suffer if Wall Street firms cut-back their spending should the "choppy" market and economy continue;

 - FDS was the Stock to Study in the January 2008 issue of Better Investing magazine and the article mentions that 77% of its revenue comes from investment management clients and 23% from investment banking customers;

- FDS's price has fallen some 19% in the last 2 months (from $64.10 on 11-18 to $52.07 today) and now just about any SSG should be in the BUY zone;

 - Take Stock Online now shows a 24% Total Return for FDS, because of the big price drop, even though it has not changed any of its 'judgments' from 2 months ago;

- Who is willing to BUY FDS at its current price?

Armin

ps: why does Take Stock show a Buy Price of $64.76 and say that FDS might be a buy at $51.80??


Armin Fields
check out my SSG blog at
http://arminfields.wordpress.com

Patrick Landers


03/08/2008 7:09 PM  
Hey Armin,
My club is looking at FDS and I was wondering what your thoughts about the stock are now. It's most recent results were excellent with sales and earnings up >23%. PTM was 33% also.
Concerns: 1. Cost of service increased 28% (DT increased stock options as part of performance compensation) 2. Margins are contracting a bit-Co predicts margins of 30.5% to 32.5% next year (VL predicts margins to be near 35% in 3 to 5 years.) 3.Stock repurchases are being negated by stock/option grants 4. 70% of sales came from the US which is in or headed for a recession. (At least outside of Washington DC) :)

In the last 10Q report, the Co reported subscription increases of 23%. (These are the strongest predictors of forward looking revenues for the next 12 months.) Also, the average subscription increased by 13% and the retention rate was 95%.

The SSG looks like a strong Buy based on revenue growth of 14%. (This is the approximate revenue growth for FDS the years following the recession of 2001. According to VL, sales decreased by 1/2 in 02, and again by 1/2 in 03; sales recovered by 05.)

My SSG looks like this:
sales gr 14.00%
EPS gr 13.40%
Hi PE 26
Hi Pr $109.20
VL Hi Pr $105
Low PE 18
Low Pr $40.32
CF Pr $94.35
UD 4.7
TR 16.9
Pr $52.00
5 yr Pr $104
Buy Under $57.54
TS rating 10

Earnings growth is from the preferred procedure with the average PTM from SA.
High and low PE are based on VL data; both are below any of the 5 year averages from PERT B.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Pat Landers


Patrick Landers


03/08/2008 7:19 PM  
Armin,
I should have looked the last post over a little better before I sent it. The paragraph about revenue after the last recession should have said RATE of revenue growth. The post sounds like the actual sales decreased by 1/2, which it did not. The rate of sales growth went from 31% in 01 to 16% in 02 and to 8% in 03. Sorry for any confusion.

The ratio analyser looks good for this company also.

Pat Landers

armin fields


03/08/2008 10:18 PM  

Hey Pat:

Did you know you can edit your messages (even long after you post) and that you do not have to make corrections or additions separately.

You should also attach your SSG: even though your initial post was very thorough, there are some abbreviations I don't understand and some other facts I'd like to know.

I'll post a comparison tomorrow of our SSGs along with Take Stock's.

As Woody Allen might say: I "lurves" comparisons.

(Your joke suggests you might be from the D.C area, is that right?)

Armin


Armin Fields
check out my SSG blog at
http://arminfields.wordpress.com

Patrick Landers


03/09/2008 5:33 PM  
Armin,
No I was not aware that you could edit a reply after it has been sent. If you could send me the directions for that it would save me a lot of "redo's"

I can attach my SSG however I use the Stock Analyst program. If you have Stock Analyst also I will send it via an SDF formated file; if you have TK5 I will send it with SSG format.
I am having a problem with the SSGs I send. It is probably related to a preference I have enabled, but am unaware of. Maybe you can help and save me a call to ICLUB. When I complete an SSG with judgement and save it, It does not save the judgements. It sends the SSG with the computer generated trend lines. FDS is a good example: I decreased sales growth to 14%. However, when I sent the SSG to club members, it went out with sales growth of 20%.

I live in N.E. Ohio and have spent the past 2 days shovelling my driveway.

Pat Landers

armin fields


03/09/2008 10:47 PM  

Pat Landers’ investment club is evaluating FDS and Pat says his SSG looks like a “strong Buy.”  Here’s a comparison of Pat’s SSG and mine along with the analysis by Take Stock On-Line:

 

FACTSET RESEARCH (FDS)

Pat

Take Stock

Armin

Sales Growth

14.00%

18.50%

16.00%

EPS Growth

13.40%

18.50%

16.00%

High PE

26.0

29.9

23.0

High Price

$109.20

$149.33

$108.10

...Value Line Estimated High Price = $70-105 as of 3-7-08…

Low PE

18.0

16.4

15.0

Low Price

$40.32

$36.57

$33.60

Up/Down Ratio

4.7

6.3 (imputed)

3.0

Total Return

16.9%

24.1%

16.4%

Price

$52.00

$52.00

$51.80

Buy Under

$57.54

$64.76

$52.23

SSG Date

 

3-8-08

3-7-08

SSG Data

 

Hemscott

S&P

COMMENTS: 

- The analysts are estimating long-term EPS growth at around 18% with Value Line low at 16.5% and Reuters as well as First Call high at 18.33%.  Zacks is 17.00% and S&P and FactSet CallStreet are 18.0%.  Reuters less one Standard Deviation, what I use most often (but not here), is 17.1%;

- Pat estimated EPS growth of 13.40% which is a lot less than the analysts, but both our SSGs are very close in terms of results: our Forecast High Price and Total Return are almost identical;

- Take Stock is the surprising exception and is way more optimistic than Pat or myself: its Forecast High Price is some $40 per share more than ours and a whopping $44 or 42% per share more than Value Line;

- VL updated its FDS report on 3-7-08 and: (1) lowered its estimated PE in the next 3-5 years from 22.0 to 20.5; (2) lowered its estimated EPS growth rate from 17.5% to 16.5%; and (3) raised its estimated High Price from $65-100 to $70-105.  And, FDS’s price continued to fall some $5.65 per share from the prior VL report three months ago;

- FDS seems like an excellent company and I am most impressed with its 95+% customer retention rate; the big uncertainty is the market;

- There are lots of good-looking companies, with good-looking SSGs, that have been hammered down in price (INFY, SBUX, MDT, COH, FIC, and JKHY for example): I’d seek to choose those that have the best chance of making the best recovery for the long-term.

QUESTIONS:

- What is it about Take Stock On-Line’s programming that makes it so optimistic about FDS, even more optimistic in its EPS estimate than any of the six analysts I checked, even though it is designed to produce a conservative result?

 

Armin

 


Armin Fields
check out my SSG blog at
http://arminfields.wordpress.com
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