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jncraig


09/20/2006 9:23 PM  
Fastenal Co., ticker symbol FAST on the NASDAQ, is a mid-sized company based on FY2005 revenues of $1.523 billion. It is in the Trading Companies & Distributors industry. FAST is also covered by the Investor Advisory Service as of the August 2006 issue, and is rated 1 for quality (on a scale of 1 to 5, with 1 being highest).

ADRIENNE ZBORIL


11/30/2006 8:16 PM  
I am looking hard at a purchase but am a little concerned about the PE. Current (29) is slightly below ave. (31.6)  but a PE of greater than 25 just seems high.  Am I overly concerned on this one number.  The PERT a graph also a downtrend of 7 trailing qtrs. of both profits and earnings and 6 of sales.  My general feelings  about the co are otherwise positive.   front of SSG improving, no debt, sect 2 up, review of business sounds sound.  Is my analysis causing an overreacting paralysis?  What do you think?

Joe Craig
Ellicott City, MD
StockCentral Administrator

12/01/2006 12:09 AM  
I think that you're asking all of the right questions, Adrienne!

I've never studied FAST, but I took a quick look using Take Stock. My first impression had to do with the years from 2001 through 2004. If FAST has come out of this less than stellar time and is one the way to continued growth, maybe it's an appropriate time to look.

It looks like Take Stock's main trouble with FAST is the "unpredictability" of earnings growth. That's why Take Stock has decided that FAST isn't a "quality" company.

But ... if you have stronger feelings about the future ...

Joe

ADRIENNE ZBORIL


12/07/2006 9:59 AM  
Joe,  Thanks for the input.  I am going to watch closely one more qtr. Maybe then I'll feel stronger about the future.  A Z

ADRIENNE ZBORIL


12/30/2006 10:08 PM  
I made the purchase finally.  I based it on a number of things.  I again took into account the previous concerns I had.  I then when to morningstar stock research and looked at their fair value estimate and assesment of business risk, economic moat, and stewardship grade.  I also noticed a store in our town  (about15000) and went in.  It had some quality supplies at a good price that I needed and so bought. I asked about some things I knew they didn't have and they were quick to offer to order them for me.  Good service.  Value Lines assesment seemed positive for appropriate reasons.  I tried to subscribe to manifestinvesting.com but couldn't get logged on. I wanted to check out the Quality rating. When I ran it myself it seemed fine.  Then my subscription to Investment Advisory Service came in and FAST was one of the companies featured.  While my SSG had a higher high PE it had a lower EPS growth estimate and thus a lower projected high price.  The projected low was spot on. So, it was in the buy range and except for the PERT A, I could find no reason to not buy.  We will now see. At least I have some other folks watching it with me. But I felt I did the best with what I had. 

Joe Craig
Ellicott City, MD
StockCentral Administrator

12/30/2006 10:34 PM  
Keep us advised!

And, if you have an SSG file to contribute, please upload it. You can attach it to a message in the forum.

Joe

ADRIENNE ZBORIL


12/31/2006 2:44 PM  
Here's the SSG  ( I hope )  AZ

Attachment: FAST.SSG


Dan Hess


01/01/2007 8:28 AM  

Welcome to the Fastenal shareholders group.  I am a current holder of FAST having made my first purchase in 1998 and during this time it has shown a return of over 22% per year.  I hope history repeats.  I think you have picked a good time to invest in FAST since it normally sells at higher PE Ratios. I am always cautious when a high quality company like FAST sells at lower than historical prices. My take on why the stock is currently selling lower includes the following:

1) Some of the FAST business is associated with the housing industry that is recently in a slump.  I expect  this excess housing inventory to be worked off sometime during 2007.

2) FAST is dependent upon the economy and thus is affected if the economy declines or slows. (Some call this cyclical but I have found FAST has been able to grow quite well in this cyclical industry.)  Many are expecting a slowdown in GDP perhaps in 2007.  We are overdue for a slowdown, but I have learned trying to predict when thes will occur is a fools game. So whenever it comes I expect FAST to be a survivor and will strongly emerge.

3) FAST has recently initiated actions aimed at growing same store sales(SSS). I view growing same SSS to be a key measure of success for a retail type company.  FAST calls this CSP (Customer servive Project).  Basically it includes adding inventory, adding staff and realigning the store layouts that impacts expenses in the short term but has proven to increase revenue, profit and margins and SSS longer term. So this investment in the future has dissapointed some analysts since profits have been impacted. I see this as a plus.

I see these to be the main factors that have recently affected the FAST stock price and I view each of them as temporary in nature and thus I do think FAST is a bargain at recent prices.

FAST has a Quality Rating at Manifest of 87 that is quite high. Manifest rates LNCR and KNX as the only companies having higher ratings.

I see the main strength of FAST to be their management.  They are honest, competent, intent on growing the business and profits and  look out for shareholders.   They are not found seeking media coverage but seem to spend their time running the business.

My SSG is similar to yours although slightly more conservative. For sales and EPS growth I have 15% the same as you. I have a high PE of 28 vs your 35. I do note Manifest has an average PE of 27. I have a high price of 72 vs your 77 and my low price is 22 vs your 25. I see these differences within my accuracy.  

In case you have not discovered it, FAST provides superb monthly sales information at its web site. Click on this URL to see

http://www.fastenal.com/web/aboutUs.ex?action=FinancialReports

Good luck and a Happy and Prosperous 2007.

Dan Hess


Joe Craig
Ellicott City, MD
StockCentral Administrator

01/01/2007 12:43 PM  
Dan,

Maybe you could contribute your SSG file, too?

Happy New Year!

Joe

Dan Hess


01/01/2007 2:04 PM  

Attached is my SSG for Fastenal.

Dan Hess





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SSG file added by Joe Craig


Attachment: FAST.SDF
Attachment: FAST.SSG


Karen OBoyle
Denver, Colorado


01/01/2007 2:48 PM  

Hi Dan - I'm unable to open the FAST file.  The error message is 'damaged file'.  Could you upload again - perhaps in another format?   Thanks.

 


Karen OBoyle

Joe Craig
Ellicott City, MD
StockCentral Administrator

01/01/2007 2:52 PM  
If you had trouble with Dan's SDF file, try the SSG version. I found that I couldn't easily download the SDF -- but I was able to save it to disk and then it imported it just fine.

Joe

STEVEN WHITTLESEY


01/01/2007 2:57 PM  
Can someone explain the negative Free Cash Flow Margin. This makes me pretty nervous even though the company has no debt

Dan Hess


01/01/2007 4:09 PM  

Steven

Many of us calculate FCF differently.  I use Cash from Operations(CFO) minus capital expenditures(CAPX)- Free Cash Flow (FCF).  From the 10Q for 3Q06 I see:

CFO = 79.67M

CAPX = 60.4M

Thus FCF = 19.27M.  This I see as positive but not as high as I would like.  Probing around the 10Q I see Net income rose 20.2% while Inventory rose 27.7%. This negatively impacted CFO by about $12.4M.  I covered the reasons for this in my earlier post.

I also see purchased property and equipment is up from 42.38M in the prior 9 months to 63.576M or about 50%.  This gets my attention and it seemed to get Fastenal mgmt attention as well as they explained the reasons for it in the 10Q as follows:

Property and equipment expenditures in the nine months of 2006 consisted of: (1) the purchase of software and hardware for Fastenal's information processing systems, (2) the addition of certain pickup trucks, (3) the purchase of signage, shelving, and other fixed assets related to store openings and conversion of existing stores to the expected inventory stocking model (formerly referred to as CSP) or to the CSP2 stocking model, (4) the addition of manufacturing and warehouse equipment, (5) the expansion or improvement of certain owned or leased store properties, (6) the expansion of Fastenal's distribution/trucking fleet, and (7) cost related to the relocation of our Fresno, California distribution center (approximately 52,500 square feet) to our new Modesto, California distribution center (approximately 320,000 square feet). Disposals of property and equipment consisted of the planned disposition of certain pickup trucks, semi-tractors, and trailers in the normal course of business and the disposition of real estate relating to several store locations.

While they did not provide a breakdown of how much was spent on each of these items my guess is the CSP-2, Trucking initiative to move trucking inhouse from UPS and other truckers and the new distribution center were likely the main contributors.  CSP will be continuing for a while but I would expect the trucking and distribution expenses to decline.

I do think CAPX as well as the management of inventory and accounts receivable are items to observe to see if the trends do improve.

I do see it as a sign of financial confidence that in June 06 the board authorized the buyback of 500000 share or about $18M.  If they perceived ongoing cash flow to be a problem I would not think they would have made this decision. I do note the Balance Sheet shows a decline in C&E from 56M to 13M indicative of the inventory problem and the higher CAPX. I do like to see companies like FAST being able to fund their growth without taking on any long term debt.

Dan Hess

 


Jeff Williams


01/01/2007 7:50 PM  

 

I believe, both of the SSGs in this thread were basing their EPS estimate off of the 2005 EPS instead of off of the current EPS using the end of the trend line.  I attached my SSG which is in line with the others with respect to growth rates, but since we are already into the fourth quarter (actually done with it but awaiting reporting) I show a buy rather than a hold.  Actually this is a stock I am bringing to my club in two weeks as a purchase candidate.

Regards,

Jeff


Attachment: FAST.ITK
Attachment: FAST.SSG


Dan Hess


01/01/2007 9:18 PM  

Hi Jeff

You are correct.  I chose to use the 2005 EPS unadjusted to calculate the projected low price. I used this as well as a lower low PE Ratio to be conservative to allow for lower EPS in 2007 if a possible economic downturn should occur.  I was also more conservative on the Hi PE Ratio. I also expect the cost of implementing CSP-2 to continue in 2007 that will negatively impact 2007 EPS while helping assure ongoing longer term growth and profits. So some (maybe most) will view my projected low price of $17.60 to be overly conservative.

I do note the IAS in recommending FAST as a recent buy used numbers similar to yours. So you are in good company.  I hope you are both correct and $1.28 will be the low EPS for FAST as well as the higher PE Ratios and especialy the high price.   

I admit to often being more conservative than many others.  I consider trying to project future events accurately to be quite difficult and thus prefer to be pleasantly surprised on the upside.

I will be surprised if one of the investing gurus does not select Fastenal as one of their 5 investment choices this month and then we will get a look at how that guru (s) views the future of Fastenal.   

On the topic of Fastenal, I recently read where the company was experimenting with a new CSP-3 initiative with a store about 3 times as large as a typical store in their headquarters location in Winona, MN.  The company has said nothing about this.  Does anyone have any knowledge of this new concept store and what it may suggest or may have visited the Winona store?  I am curious since this would indicate a rather significant change in their business model and I wonder if they may not be considering competing beyond their current market to more directly compete with companies like Home Depot.

Dan Hess


Joan Delgado


02/01/2007 9:46 PM  

Congratulations, Adrienne!

I first met FAST when our club, in 1999, made FAST it's second stock to own (after Pfizer) and it became a real star from then to 2006, when I moved away. I had it in my personal portfolio too, and sold it in 2004 to help finance our retirement home. I have always paid close attention to section 2 of the SSG for this company and I am satisfied that they have a management team in place that can meet adversities. I just bought 100 shares this week after looking at it in Better-Investing and Manifest Investing for about the last 2 months. So maybe we consider things at the same speed! -- Joan


Adolf Vogt


02/14/2007 7:37 PM  
I am new to StockCentral -- hopefully this is the correct place for my question:
Can you please clarify the result in StockCentral - Take Stock for Fastenal as "does not meet standards": Quality Index 3.2
In the "Complete Roster of Quality Companies" Fast is not shown.
In IAS it's a BUY for Fastenal.
In Manifest Investing Fast' Quality is 90.5 and PAR 17.8%
I show Fast in the buy range on my SSG.
--- Adolf Vogt

Joe Craig
Ellicott City, MD
StockCentral Administrator

02/14/2007 10:55 PM  
I am new to StockCentral -- hopefully this is the correct place for my question:
Can you please clarify the result in StockCentral - Take Stock for Fastenal as "does not meet standards": Quality Index 3.2
In the "Complete Roster of Quality Companies" Fast is not shown.
In IAS it's a BUY for Fastenal.
In Manifest Investing Fast' Quality is 90.5 and PAR 17.8%
I show Fast in the buy range on my SSG.

This is the perfect place to ask your questions!  I'll try to answer on behalf of Take Stock.

I'd first recommend that you read the help files for Take Stock.  Also, look in The Classroom (a forum in the Investing group) where Ellis Traub just completed a workshop that described the philosophy behind Take Stock.  You'll find that Take Stock is very conservative.

Looking specifically at the details for FAST, you can "drill down" into the analysis by clicking on the major items.  So, if you drill down into the Quality Index you will find that Take Stock punishes FAST because of "earnings predictability."  Take Stock's goal is really to keep newcomers and inexperienced investors from buying a bad stock.  In this case, conservatism helps!

Presumably others believe that the bad times are over for FAST.  If you are one of them, you probably are in good company as you have mentioned.

I hope that this helps.  And ... Take Stock provides a good conservative second opinion.  You can certainly use it to challenge your analysis.  Click the "Summary" link for an itemized list of good and bad items seen in the analysis.  Specifically:

Summary
Fastenal Company does not meet your standards for quality at this time.

Reasons to Buy
  • Sales growth is very predictable.
  • Sales have grown historically at 15.06%.
  • Earnings have grown historically at 16.60%.
  • Recent sales growth has been 19.80%.
  • Recent earnings growth has been 22.00%.
  • Profit margins are trending up or are steady.
  • Return on Equity is strong.


Items to Check

  • Earnings growth is unpredictable.
  • Investor interest has cooled. There may be a valid reason.
  • It is impossible to calculate a buy price for this company.


Joe

Dan Hess


02/15/2007 10:35 AM  
Adolf

Let me add to what Joe said.  Looking at TakeStock it identifies some areas to check for FAST.
 Items to Check

  • Earnings growth is unpredictable.
  • Investor interest has cooled. There may be a valid reason.
  • It is impossible to calculate a buy price for this company
Recognize T$ only has visibility to the historic numbers and thus must make a decision based upon these. But the identified items to check seem to be right on to me.  Here are my thoughts related to these items:

1) Earnings Growth is unpredictable
FAST is a company that is dependent upon the overall US economy and thus its sales and earnings will fluctuate with the economy. You can see this by looking at the history and see how the 2000/2001 recession impacted the companies results.  Secondly FAST has been implementing something they call a Customer Service Project (CSP)[Plus a few other areas affecting expenses].  The net of this is to spend extra dollars in their stores to expand same store sales and profits.  But there is a time lag between the investment and the payoff and thus causes a fluctuation in earnings.  That is what T$ sees and suggests you check.

2) Investor interest has cooled
Many investors are expecting a slow down or recession in the US economy.  Thus they tend to avoid stocks that would be affected by the economy like FAST.  This causes a driving down of stock prices and and leads T$ to observe investor interest has cooled.

3) Impossible to calculate a buy price.
This is mainly caused by #1.

I see there are two (at least) ways to use T$.  First you can focus only on stocks rated highly and not add your own judgment.  Second you can observe what T$ tells you like the areas to investigate and then add your own judgment.  I think FAST would fall into the latter.

You mention IAS and Manifest.  Both of these facilities add their own judgment as well as looking forward to expected results of the company.  It is important to recognize T$ only has history upon which to make a decision.

Dan Hess


Joe Craig
Ellicott City, MD
StockCentral Administrator

02/15/2007 12:14 PM  
Somewhat emboldened by your assessment, Dan, I decided to take a look at FAST using Toolkit.  So, I downloaded current data from StockCentral.

Step number 1 was to bump the year ahead so that 2006 is the last year, even though I don't have data.  So, I went to the data tab and set the last year to 2006.  Then my data ends at 2005, but I have a spot for 2006.  More important, the projections will be for 5 years from the end of 2006.

I chose 15% for the sales growth rate and 23% for the EPS growth rate.  I'm thinking that the EPS growth rate likely should be a bit lower. 

To make the graph "nicer looking" I added the last 4 available quarters for sales and earnings and plugged those in as annual numbers.  That really doesn't matter much, since my analysis really does use them.  I projected from the end of the trend lines.

My SSG file is attached...

Attachment: FAST.SSG


Joe
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