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 Amy Rauch Neilson
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| 09/11/2008 8:25 PM |
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I love my computer. Truly. In fact, I could easily do without my landline and, when we’re on vacation, I look forward to getting away from the phone. But not my computer. One of the first questions I ask when I’m planning a trip is: Do you have wireless Internet access?
Still, I must admit that while there are lots of computerized gadgets in the world that I have readily embraced, there are a few that I’m not so fond of. Like computerized calendars. I have several calendars – and they’re all the old-fashioned, paper kind. There’s one hanging in my kitchen and another in my office. On top of that, I have a huge, desktop-sized calendar that contains both social and business commitments on it – and I actually take it back and forth with me to my new office.
I’m sure I look ridiculous carrying a desk pad calendar that easily measures three feet by two-and-a-half to work each day. Matter of fact, a colleague recently, carefully broached the subject. Had I ever, er, uh, perhaps considered a BlackBerry? Or, at the very least, maybe one of those small, traveling planners – one that could fit in my purse?
Sure, I’ve considered it. Briefly. But I decided against it because, well, I’m quite fond of my desktop calendar. I like having everything – from writing deadlines to doctors’ appointments – written out in huge blocks where I can see everything all at once. I like being able to scribble notes down the side or across the top. And I like being able to flip through the pages to jot a note to myself about something I’ll need to revisit several months down the road.
The Time Has Come
The only reason I’d consider changing to a computerized calendar would be if I thought my current calendar was somehow making me less efficient at what I do. But while I admit that my method is a bit eccentric, it works for me. The minute that it stops working for me -- and reeks of inefficiency -- will be the minute I make the change, though I hope that time never comes.
Investment clubs, unfortunately, no longer have that luxury. The time has come – in fact, it came a while back -- for both new and well-established clubs accustomed to using the paper-and-pencil version of the Stock Selection Guide to take advantage of the new Millennium and all it has to offer. In short, that means using the computer to not only increase the speed with which your club conducts stock analysis, but also its efficiency.
Efficiency, efficiency, efficiency…
“In general, people who don’t know their way around a computer are going to avoid it and cling to what they know best – paper and pencil,” says Gene Rooks, co-treasurer of the Southern Women Investing Money Club in Orlando, Fla. and one of ICLUBcentral's volunteer club accounting advisers. But when it comes to stock evaluation and comparison tools like the Stock Selection Guide, clinging to old-fashioned methods rob your club of both time and opportunity. In the same amount of time that it takes your club members to complete a manual SSG, members could have completed five or six computerized SSGs.
“Even if you know how to do an SSG on paper, it will take a skilled person a minimum of 20 to 30 minutes to complete one and a newbie can easily spend up to two hours. It becomes pretty challenging to compare several companies within an industry if you have to spend an entire evening just completing one or two SSGs,” Gene says.
Step by Step
If your club falls into this category, it’s time to make the move to computerized stock analysis. “Clubs should make being computer literate a priority, and insist that members commit to subscribing to a data source like a membership to StockCentral provides, and a program for stock selection that is based on the Stock Selection Guide,” Gene says.
The very easiest and least expensive way to get everyone on board is to insist that all members subscribe to StockCentral. This will give them each access to instant TakeStock analysis, a stock screener, financial statement analyzer, data sheets that are easier to read than Value Line for manual input into paper SSG's, stock resource links, plus a library of information and community forums. Though you can’t change the judgment section in Take Stock – what you see is what you get – it does offer food for thought and ample explanations of the methodology. Better yet is to get everyone into the Toolkit software, along with the StockCentral subscription for the data.
Still not convinced? Gene points out that computerized analysis offers clubs the following benefits:
- It allows all of your members to contribute equally.
For veteran clubs, oftentimes the issue becomes that while some members have moved to the computerized versions, others cling to the by-hand methods they learned back when the club was first founded. Or, they just leave the SSG’s to those who do use computer program. “As a consequence, those members’ contributions to the club are often quite minimal, and they aren’t learning,” Gene explains. “They simply can’t generate the same number of Stock Selection Guides or the same amount of information as their computer-literate counterparts.”
- It allows your club to explore a greater number of investment prospects.
“Whether you’re using a computerized version of the SSG, or paper, you’ll be entering the same company data and getting the same answers,” Gene says. A big difference, she points out, is the speed with which you can complete an SSG with Toolkit. More speed = more completed SSGs. And more completed SSGs means your club will have a much wider range of companies to compare and contrast – and more stock possibilities to consider.
- It allows your members to complete their studies more quickly.
“When your club members consistently use Toolkit, they’ll be able complete their studies more quickly,” Gene says. “It eliminates time spent in locating and entering historical data, adding columns and computing averages. The only time you need to spend is what I call ‘thinking time’ – the time it takes you to arrive at your judgments. All that’s left for you to do is enter your projections of the company’s percentage growth in sales and earnings, its potential high and low P/E Ratio over the next five years, and your estimated low price choice.” Then, with the push of a button, all of the completed calculations are right there in front of you. All of this is currently available in the Investors Toolkit 5.
- Toolkit 6 allows even more opportunity for comparison.
“Toolkit 6 is an even more robust product,” Gene says. She notes that Toolkit 6 features a box on the Visual Analysis page that offers company information like outstanding shares, book value, dividend rate, cash flow, and more. Just as you can view a company’s sales and earnings as a line on a graph, you can click to view any of this information as a line as well, and save it if you wish.
In addition, if you’re willing to take a side trip to the company profiles available on sites like Yahoo! and MSN, you can fill in the next two years’ earnings estimates. That will allow you to compare the analysts’ projected earnings for the company with your own. “Now, you not only have your own judgment, but you can see if it falls in line with what the analysts think,” Gene says. “While for the most part, the analysts’ projections are close to my own, there have been times – such as recently, with Starbucks – that their projections were far below my own.
“When you first open a company in Toolkit 6, it will ask you if you want Toolkit’s judgment on the company you are studying. This is similar to the instant analysis you get with TakeStock. You can then go ahead and enter your own judgments to compare the two. I like to do that as a way to double-check myself,” Gene says. These are just a few of the extra features to be found in Toolkit 6.
No Room for “Preference”
Some clubs are reluctant to mandate that members use computers in their stock study analysis, fearing such a requirement would be unfair to members who don’t own or have access to a computer. This decision is, of course, each club’s prerogative, but, as Gene notes, “In today’s world, there’s seldom anyone who would join an investment club who wouldn’t have access to a computer. Choosing whether or not to use a computer is more than likely a matter of preference.”
And it’s not always a matter of the club member’s age. In fact, Gene relays the story of a young woman in her 30s who joined her club, but didn’t like using a computer. “We weren’t trying to single her out – but the other members would often talk about websites and information that they gathered online, and she felt left out.” Eventually, she left the club.
It was probably just as well, Gene says. With the wide range of data available online coupled with top-notch stock analysis software, the computer is no longer a matter of preference – but has become an essential part of the equation for investment club success.
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 Danny Matthews
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| 09/11/2008 9:33 PM |
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Most importantly, no erasers to use and no colored pencils to keep track of! |
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Danny Matthews Tuscola IL |
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 Amy Rauch Neilson
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| 09/12/2008 9:33 AM |
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I'm with you on that!
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Elisa S. Sawall
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| 09/18/2008 10:26 PM |
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| Members of my club last night were thinking of starting from scratch with our ssg's again because we have such a hard time with judgments....and when to update the judgments that we have arrived at. How does First Impressions arrive at their judgment calls we want to know. I think that the First Impressions is really awesome. I think your article is helpful though. |
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 Doug Gerlach Cambridge, MA http://www.iclub.com/ President, ICLUBcentral
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| 09/19/2008 8:13 AM |
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Posted By Elisa S. Sawall on 09/18/2008 10:26 PM
Members of my club last night were thinking of starting from scratch with our ssg's again because we have such a hard time with judgments....and when to update the judgments that we have arrived at. How does First Impressions arrive at their judgment calls we want to know. I think that the First Impressions is really awesome. I think your article is helpful though.
I'm working on an article that will describe this feature and how it works in a bit more detail, so stay tuned.
Also, on the evening of October 1st, we'll be holding a live online Webinar at 7pm ET and then again at 7 pm PT. This workshop, Introducing Toolkit 6, will give you the opportunity to learn all about the program and the new features. We'll have the signup address soon.
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Posting from ICLUBcentral world headquarters in the Harvard Square's historic College House, Cambridge, MA
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Elisa S. Sawall
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| 09/25/2008 1:53 PM |
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Oct. 1st??? I have a meeting at 7pm ET and BetterInvesting is doing a seminar at 9pmET that I signed up for....do you think that you could have a 3rd slot or will this be repeated or archived? |
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