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jncraig

08/31/2006 7:25 PM
The attached ZIP file contains a selection of SSG files from the new STOCKcentral.com datafeed. Please download and look them over, and please ask questions, report problems, etc.
Attachment: ssgfiles20060831.zip

William Vincent

09/02/2006 12:50 PM
Joe, the annual data for WMT for 2005 is missing the high and low price for the year.

Louise

09/02/2006 2:47 PM
Why are there no prices/price bars for HD for year 2005? Thanks. Louise

jncraig

09/02/2006 2:52 PM
That's what we in the technical field refer to as "an error" and that's why we're asking everyone to test!

Zinc

09/02/2006 3:49 PM
The files download just fine. What a relief to see Insiders Percentageand Institutional Holdings!! Can you share how you plan to present the choice of company files for download (other than thru the zip file method? Lookin' good. Zinc

jncraig

09/02/2006 5:10 PM
The ZIP file is ONLY for this testing. We haven't gotten into a lot of detail, but I'd expect to see something like currently exists on the BetterInvesting site where you can enter a ticker and go to the company page. If you'll dig into Toolkit's options, I think that you'll already see a way to configure for a STOCKcentral (ICLUBcentral) data service. I would expect future versions and upgrades of the ICLUBcentral products all to include lots of ways of getting access to the data. That would include direct data downloads, upgrades, one-click access to the appropriate ticker forum, etc. We're also going to be encouraging people to upload their SSG, SDF and ITK files and we'll have software that automatically computes a "consensus" SSG.

lcrobinson

09/02/2006 5:13 PM
AIG has no sales! Larry

lcrobinson

09/02/2006 5:35 PM
Joe, After going into preferences and changing to Iclub data subscription..when will this be working? It appears when you hit on update prices it works but when you go to update companies, it tells you that you are not subscribed. However, it works well! Larry

jncraig

09/02/2006 6:02 PM
We'll make an announcement when this is ready. It's at least a week away.

JimT

09/03/2006 3:27 AM
I notice Toolkit says the data source (on the Basic Data tab) is "StkCntrl". Why not spell it out "StockCentral"?

JimT

09/03/2006 3:45 AM
There is someone besides just the few of us here testing this, isn't there? MSFT is missing some annual data for the 2006 fiscal year. MSFT showns the 2005 annual dividend as $3.40 but BI's SDS data shows it as $3.32 (which I believe is correct). I think it would be even better if "special" dividends (like MSFT's $3/sh in 2005) were normalized out of the annual data.

legalnan

09/03/2006 7:35 AM
>>That's what we in the technical field refer to as "an error" and that's why we're asking everyone to test!<< Joe, This is the sort of issue I refer to when I keep requesting a "to" feature. There have been about a dozen posts here and it's not clear which one you're responding to. Or maybe I'm just not figuring it out. Could there maybe be a link to the message you're responding to or something? Both features are available in the BI Community.

legalnan

09/03/2006 7:50 AM
So I downloaded the zipfile to my desktop and extracted the files. In TK I choose file/import company/from my computer. I chose SSG on top and desktop on the bottom, but nothing shows up on the right. Then I tried file finder choosing ssg and C Fixed. Nothing shows up. Nothing shows up choosing zip either. Obviously I'm doing something wrong since the rest of you are finding the files. If I try file/import from my computer then choose zip file and desktop, the zip file shows up. But how do I get to a specific file? Obviously I haven't done this stuff for a long time

jncraig

09/03/2006 10:23 AM
This is the sort of issue I refer to when I keep requesting a "to" feature. There have been about a dozen posts here and it's not clear which one you're responding to. Or maybe I'm just not figuring it out. Could there maybe be a link to the message you're responding to or something? Both features are available in the BI Community. This software doesn't have the concept of "to" in it. Quoting helps?

William Vincent

09/03/2006 10:48 AM
AA (Alcoa) also has data missing. This time it's the entire SALES column in the Annual Data screen.

jncraig

09/03/2006 11:06 AM
So I downloaded the zipfile to my desktop and extracted the files. In TK I choose file/import company/from my computer. I chose SSG on top and desktop on the bottom, but nothing shows up on the right. Did you extract the SSG files to your desktop? Look at the desktop and see if they are there. If they aren't on the desktop, you'll have to navigate to the folder where they are and then import Then I tried file finder choosing ssg and C Fixed. Nothing shows up. Maybe you really didn't extract the SSG files. If I try file/import from my computer then choose zip file and desktop, the zip file shows up. I can't get Toolkit to import directly from a ZIP file, though it appears it's supposed to be able to do that. Irv is watching, so perhaps he can tell us how to do this.

Shanna

09/03/2006 11:40 AM
>Obviously I'm doing something wrong since the rest of you are finding the files. Nancy, I downloaded the zipped files to the desktop and had the same results you described. If you extract the zipped files, there is a folder "ssgfiles20060831" and inside that folder is a folder "ssgfiles." I copied that folder to the desktop and sent a copy to My Documents. I cannot import into Toolkit from the Desktop folder, but I can import them all from the folder sent to My Documents by selecting File==>Import several companies==>Other data files. If the individual ssg files are on the desktop I can import them. Shanna Rendon

garbagecop

09/03/2006 12:20 PM
After reading Shanna's reply, I simply downloaded the zip file, then extracted it to a new file in My Docs called Test SSGs. From there, all files opened fine with a double-click because I had the files associated with Toolkit. No need to "import". Then I realized that I would never be able to catch errors on the WHOLE SSG, so I concentrated on the data from the data entry screens. And missing data is causing missing graph lines, etc. Missing Data on all files: Basic screen: No preferred stock which I found unusual for some of those companies. Annual and Quarterly screens - missing info: AXP - all sales DD - 03 04 tax rate HD - 05 hi/lo prices HPQ - 02 tax rate MSFT - 05 annual info PG - 05 annual info WMT - 05 hi/lo prices AIG - all sales BA - 97 03 & 05 tax rate, 05 3Q tax rate DIS - 00 01 tax rate GM - 01 04 & 05 tax rate HON - 01 02 tax rate PFE 03 - tax rate VZ - 01 tax rate Hope that helps. Lynn O.

jncraig

09/03/2006 12:25 PM
Yes, Lynn, that's a BIG help!

legalnan

09/03/2006 11:05 PM
Thanks, Shanna. It worked fine once I moved it to my documents. So now I can get one of those SSG files by either importing it or just double clicking on it. Live and learn

legalnan

09/03/2006 11:47 PM
Joe, This time I was able to copy the whole message. There must have been some odd fonts on the last one I tried. So I downloaded the zipfile to my desktop and extracted the files. In TK I choose file/import company/from my computer. I chose SSG on top and desktop on the bottom, but nothing shows up on the right. >>Did you extract the SSG files to your desktop? Look at the desktop and see if they are there. If they aren't on the desktop, you'll have to navigate to the folder where they are and then import<< They were on the desktop, but TK didn't find them. When I followed Shanna's suggestion and moved them to my documents I had no problem. But even there, TK doesn't seem to find them using the "find all" feature.

legalnan

09/03/2006 11:52 PM
>>This software doesn't have the concept of "to" in it. Quoting helps?<< yes quoting helps but not everyone likes to quote. Is there any way at all that there could be a link to the message responded to? In long message threads, the lack of such a function could be a nightmare. In the BI community, people respond to my messages long after they have gone out of my head. It would be impossible to continue the discussion if I couldn't get to the original message.

gerlach

09/05/2006 6:27 PM
Posted By Jim Thomas on 09/03/2006 3:27 AM I notice Toolkit says the data source (on the Basic Data tab) is "StkCntrl". Why not spell it out "StockCentral"? "StockCentral" won't fit in the available space on the SSG form (the "Data taken from" field at the top of page 1). DG

gerlach

09/05/2006 6:33 PM
I can't get Toolkit to import directly from a ZIP file, though it appears it's supposed to be able to do that. Irv is watching, so perhaps he can tell us how to do this. Toolkit expects a single SSG file in the ZIP, not multiple files. DG

rajivroy

09/08/2006 8:25 AM

JNJ has the following gaps between it and the BI JNJ.

Out of the 10 yr historical tax rate - one of the years is missing in the BI version!!

All of the 10yr Pre-tax is missing in the SC version.

SOme difference in EPS values the column on left is BI version.

76 Earnings per	1.91	1.87
77 Earnings per share	2.27	2.22
78 Earnings per Share	2.65	2.71
79 Earnings per Share	3.1	2.85

Number of COmmon Authorized shares is missing in SC version

Potential dilution is missing in SC version

Column on left is BI version.

162 Year Ago Debt	304	0
163 Year Ago Current liabilities	12047	0

Differences in historical cash flow/share

Hmmmm... SC has instituional holdings.

Month and year of Latest Quarterly Data is missing in SC version.

Column on left is BI version.

315 Quarterly Pre-Tax Income (Oldest)	3292	3274
316 Quarterly Pre-Tax Income	2625	2625
317 Quarterly Pre-Tax Income	3927	4062
318 Quarterly Pre-Tax Income	3619	3402
319 Quarterly Pre-Tax Income	3554	3554
320 Quarterly Pre-Tax Income	2647	2638
321 Quarterly Pre-Tax Income	4030	4615
322 Quarterly Pre-Tax Income	3690	3603
323 Quarterly Net Income (Oldest)	2347.02	2341
324 Quarterly Net Income	2019.045	1217
325 Quarterly Net Income	2842.278	2927
326 Quarterly Net Income	2722.23	2676
327 Quarterly Net Income	2624.877	2625
328 Quarterly Net Income	2196.862	2183
329 Quarterly Net Income	2962.773	3305
330 Quarterly Net Income	2914.912	2820

99 Number of Authorized Common Shares

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