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Subject: When Small Problems Become a Big Club Headache: 6/19/2008
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Amy Rauch Neilson


06/19/2008 10:52 PM  

If you had to guess, what would you say is one of the biggest reasons that one in four investment clubs disband within the first 18 months? Would it be because:

A.     Members decided that it was too much work.

B.     Their portfolio wasn’t performing to expectations.

C.     Members had trouble meeting on a consistent basis.

What if I told you that, though all of the above reasons are valid, there’s also a more insidious reason why clubs split up? You’ve probably guessed it by now: personality conflicts. When club members have trouble seeing eye to eye – or one or two members dominate the group -- it can threaten a club’s existence.

Beginning investment clubs face a number of hurdles that they must clear, from forming a legal partnership to electing officers, setting up brokerage and bank accounts to yes, dealing with difficult members. One of the best ways to combat any problem is to have a plan in place ahead of time. That makes it much more likely that your club will clear any hurdles it faces along the way and enjoy long-term success. Here are some of the most common ailments new clubs face, followed by their remedies.

·        Weakness in leadership.
Part of the club president’s role is to take aside any member who isn’t contributing to the club, whether that means the member isn’t paying his or her dues, attending meetings on a regular basis, or pulling his or her weight when it comes to stock study and education. Your club needs strong leadership in place that’s ready to encourage members to participate, and, in a worst-case scenario, ask a member to resign. (We never said the president’s job was an easy one.)

·        A muddled meeting approach.
This is a problem with an easy solution. Most successful, long-term investment clubs follow a very specific agenda at each club meeting. (For a sample meeting agenda, go to:
http://www.iclub.com/clubs/sample_minutes.asp.) Be sure to have an agenda ready for your very first club meeting, along with a copy for each member.

Some clubs even institute not just a designated start time – but also, a specific end time. If members know that club meetings start at precisely 7 p.m. and end at precisely 8:30 p.m., they are much more likely to keep the discussion on track. As a final note, it’s also up to the club’s leadership to keep the meeting on track. A simple, “Let’s keep the discussion focused,” can do the trick.

·        Unequal membership participation.
Each and every member of your club should be an active participant, whether it’s taking meeting minutes, keeping the books, conducting stock research, or serving on the educational committee. It’s no surprise that long-term club survival rates dip considerably when one or two members are doing all of the work.


·        Lack of a common philosophy.  
If your club was founded on a philosophy of building a long-term portfolio of growth stocks that will be selected based on agreed-upon stock study methods, then this should be not only introduced at the club’s introductory meeting, but reinforced whenever a club member gets off track. Four words will really drive this point home: Beware the hot tip. Limit discussions to those that are based on solid research.


·        Allowing one or two members to run the show.
As the saying goes, it takes all kinds of people to make the world go ‘round. While different personality types can lend unique strengths to a club, it can also lead to a club’s demise. Keep in mind that one of the biggest benefits to belonging to an investment club is the opportunity to combine the wisdom of many people to build a successful portfolio. It’s this premise that allows many investment clubs to outperform professional money managers.


Sometimes, less experienced investors feel they don’t “know enough” and may hesitate to disagree with their more experienced counterparts. And sometimes, the more experienced members take this as a license to run the show. Before you know it, lively debate and a sense of joint ownership in the club have faded. If this becomes the case, once again, it’s up to the club president to step in and bring the club back into balance. 

Above all, refer to what ICLUBcentral founder Douglas Gerlach deems the Law of Reasonableness: People generally want to get along, and they want their club to thrive. Sometimes, however, people need a little reminder that reasonableness and cooperation take them further in the world than antagonism and aggressive behavior.

Do whatever you have to do. Add the Law of Reasonableness to the top of each meeting agenda or make it a standard part of your club’s basic materials. But don’t let small problems or personality conflicts stand in the way of what can be a long-term, enjoyable, educational – not to mention, profitable – venture.

 


Lynn Ostrem
Minneapolis, MN
garbagecop@earthlink.net

07/02/2008 4:50 PM  
Dear Amy,

Your article is timely and provides a well-laid-out list of the scenarios that can pull a club out of sync. Each item on your list can have equal weighting, depending on the age of the club. Your initial question was, what are the biggest reasons clubs disband in 18 months? I've been on 100's of club visits, and I have found that the lack of a shared philosophy is the #1 culprit in this time frame. But some of your other choices become more prevalent as a club matures.

One area that is particularly frustrating to me is the "allowing one or two members to run the show" scenario. I'd like to change that from allowing to forcing. We doubled our club in 2007, and half now are newbies. We provided training in the beginning, and we have kept our lines of communication open. I, personally, make myself available anytime, anywhere, to any newbie who needs or wants to get together to work on club projects or the software. The problem is, some have a natural interest and are constantly putting the veterans among us through our paces. (This is a good thing!) But some of them are slower to pick up on the tools, and are not reaching back when we offer to help.

I think I have this figured out. Sometimes people join a club because they realize they need to shore up their retirement and learn how to invest. They don’t have a natural interest in it. They would prefer to be doing something else. The club activities become a "have to" instead of a "get to." And no amount of energy expended on these members will make them giddy over stock reports and SSGs. The amount of time put into club activities is as transparent as a chiffon skirt without a slip! It's less noticeable on a cloudy day, but look out when the sun shines on the problem!

We surveyed our club recently, and there were several comments made with regard to improving our meetings. One member commented that EVERYONE in the club should be allowed to discuss our stocks...no one person should dominate. That's all fine and good, as long as EVERYONE steps up to the plate.

But what usually happens is this. A small handful of members work their butts off to prepare the agendas and education assignments, screen for stocks that meet club criteria, analyze and prepare reports on current holdings and our portfolio, then read, read, read to gain knowledge and insight on our stocks so that we can have something intelligent to discuss. Other members spend their time elsewhere, come unprepared to participate in any discussion, then sit back and offer no input, while the worker bees engage in discussion. After which...someone complains that 1 or 2 or 3 people are not allowing everyone to participate! Please.

I've spent years working with newbies. If I sit down with a new person throughout the course of one month (between meetings), and we review and discuss every aspect of one of our holdings, you can hardly contain them at the meeting! If they have taken the time to gain knowledge and they have developed an opinion on it, they want to share it with the others. And they are SO proud of themselves at the end of the meeting because they felt the “power” of sharing their knowledge.

The obvious moral to this story is two-fold. You can lead a horse to Yahoo but you can’t make him read a quarterly report. Oops! Maybe that had something to do with water, instead. I’ve been clubbing too long!

The second is, newbies should be assigned to a mentor who performs every single task with them for at least one year. Teaming up provides solid leadership and teaches the newbie how to properly prepare. In the end, everyone benefits.

It has been my experience (in my club, as well as those I’ve counciled) that the people who protest the loudest about members who “run the show” are usually the ones doing the least amount of work. Occasionally, we need to remind people that they have a choice. Investment Clubs are not for everyone. You really have to have a natural interest to enjoy it. If you don’t, there are plenty of other investing methods to pursue.

Thanks for your articles, Amy. I’ve followed you for quite awhile and I think you do an excellent job representing our clubs. Keep up the good work.

Sincerely,

Lynn Ostrem, VP
garbagecop@gmail.com
Crow River Investment Club
www.bivio.com/crowriver


Lynn Ostrem, Minneapolis

Amy Rauch Neilson


07/09/2008 9:43 AM  

Wow, Lynn! Thank you so very much for your detailed response. You offer a lot of food for thought for investments -- both new and well-established. (Do I smell another column idea?) I also appreciate your kind words regarding my years of writing about clubs. It is awesome to know that what I do truly helps people.

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