Subject: TakeStock and minimum growth requirements
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Jim Thomas


02/12/2008 2:20 PM  

Looking at the web-based TakeStock, it appears that no matter what stock I look at TakeStock's quality requirement for minimum growth rate is the same.  I bring up a company and click on "Growth" (in the vertical blue toolbar to the left where it lists Home, Quality, Growth, Efficiency ...).  I see the following notation for every company I look at ...

"The minimum sales or earnings growth rate for a company of this size should be about 7.0%; 14.9% is desirable."

For example, I get that same message on QSII ($157.2 million in Sales), FAST (1.8 billion in Sales) and SBUX ($9.4 billion in Sales).

In NAIC TakeStock 4, the message is different for those three companies, indicating higher minimum required growth for companies with smaller annual sales.

-Jim Thomas


Dave Forgianni


02/12/2008 3:20 PM  

Hi Jim,

Thanks for letting us know about that discrepancy.  The actual calculations used to generate the overall Quality Index were not affected by this issue, only the text display was in error.  This error has been corrected.  Please let us know anytime if you note other issues or have suggestions, thanks!

Dave


Ellis Traub
Davie, Florida
www.financialiteracy.us
ICLUBcentral

02/12/2008 3:55 PM  
Jim:

At 02:17 PM 2/12/2008, you wrote:
From the The Toolshed forum at StockCentral.com, Jim Thomas writes:

Looking at the web-based TakeStock, it appears that no matter what stock I look at TakeStock's quality requirement for minimum growth rate is the same.  I bring up a company and click on "Growth" (in the vertical blue toolbar to the left where it lists Home, Quality, Growth, Efficiency ...).  I see the following notation for every company I look at ...

"The minimum sales or earnings growth rate for a company of this size should be about 7.0%; 14.9% is desirable."

For example, I get that same message on QSII ($157.2 million in Sales), FAST (1.8 billion in Sales) and SBUX ($9.4 billion in Sales).

In NAIC TakeStock 4, the message is different for those three companies, indicating higher minimum required growth for companies with small annual sales.

The algorithm for determining the minimum growth rate for sales
based on the magnitude of company revenues has 7% as the
minimum, no matter how much bigger a company grows. It is
only at the small end of the company size that it will increase
above 7%. That algorithm produces something like this old
illustration:

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Ellis Traub

Kenneth Peters
Merritt Island
www.naicspace.org

04/27/2008 6:16 PM  

Jim,

You might enjoy a look at the following two links:

http://naicspace.org/PDF/Toolkit/DesiredGrowthCalculator.pdf

http://naicspace.org/Bin/DG.exe

The .exe is safe or if you would rather that I send you it renamed as DG.txt I will do so.  Also if you would like the slope and intercept for the various breakpoints just ask.

Ken


Ken

Jim Thomas


04/27/2008 7:02 PM  

A very belated "thank you" to Dave for getting this error fixed!

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